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Just looked up this quote since it appeared in the new book American Lion by Jon Meacham. This quote was used by Daniel Webster it was a rather moving/important speech on the Senate floor.— Precedingunsigned comment added by75.172.86.72 (talk)20:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

is it really quoted today by military leaders?—The precedingunsigned comment was added byBenson85 (talk •contribs) .

I would find that hard to believe; it is now pretty deeply associated with Owen's poem. --Saforrest18:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's very common, particularly in the Commonwealth, for military members of all ranks, and people associated with the military, to quote it. I see it all the time. The entire quote, as well as its fragments and derivations, is also still used in the mottoes of regiments. In fact, it might be worth bearing in mind that military members are quite thoughtful, and are fully capable of simultaneously associating it with Horace *and* Owen, and still believing in the concept without cognitive dissonance. Just because it is a lie does not mean it does not have some value, particularly for soldiers.Sigma-6 (talk)22:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It could also be that Horace was using irony, i. e. quoting military leaders of his time. He was very often ironic!—The precedingunsigned comment was added by84.162.82.95 (talk •contribs) .

I don't think that's how Horace's lines have been traditionally interpreted; see for example[1]. --Saforrest18:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure describing Jessie Pope as having "limited talent" -although undubitably true - is really suitable for an encyclopedia? It's not objective.— Precedingunsigned comment added by62.232.27.34 (talk)10:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to have been suggested that this article be merged with the article about "Dulce et Decorum Est" (The Poem by Wilfred Owens). Personally, I don't really see that as an appropriate merger. The complete phrase has quite the history of its own, whereas the poem has its own seperate meanings and history. The two are certainly related, but not to the point at which merging is appropriate.—The precedingunsigned comment was added by64.179.169.18 (talk •contribs) .

Agree againstMerge; comment added also onTalk:Dulce et Decorum Est#Disambiguation?--Deborahjay22:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose merger.logologist|Talk00:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Don't merge the two. One has its origin in the other, but notvisa versa. To merge the two would be very inappropriate.— Precedingunsigned comment added by66.67.221.11 (talk)00:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• piling on, I would also not merge the two. Unless there are significant feelings otherwise, I'll take down the merge tag in a few days. --phoebe/(talk)04:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I could easily translate the article to german or create a german version of it. I'm new to wikipedia, as you can tell not registered yet. So my question is, how do I do it?—Precedingunsigned comment added by99.52.149.4 (talk)21:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have noticed a flaw in the translation giving a feminine connotation to the word "patria" which is properly translated "fatherland" rather than "mother country". I will alter it, barring protests to the opposite by those well-studied in Latin.136.242.105.88 (talk)02:13, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

" Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, sed dulcius pro patria vivere, et dulcissimum pro patria bibere. Ergo, bibamus pro salute patriae"

Too bad this line from previous versions is no longer mentioned in the current article; I rather liked it.

83.119.101.171 (talk)15:57, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I really like the factoid about Brecht criticising it in a school essay - if anyone comes up with a citation for that it would be greatly appreciated.Apostrophemma (talk)09:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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William Manchester quotes that line in “Goodbye Darkness”, chapter: The Canal: a memoir of WWII in the Pacific.2601:700:8003:26F0:0:0:0:421E (talk)19:32, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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