Talk:Coffin
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Etymology is interesting, but what about the historical relevance of putting bodies in coffins? Does anyone have some good sources on the history of the practice?76.125.192.182 (talk)17:34, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What are specification of an average casket?
Is there any law against burying a human in a cardboard box? (in the United States of America) I heard that some people are buying cardboard boxes and then the whole family decorates it together. But I wouldn't want to be cremated but instead buried in the cardboard box. Is that okay?
The following lines had been placed at the bottom of the coffin article;
So-called "protective" caskets, that use a gasket to "seal" the unit after the body has been placed inside, actually accelerate decomposition of the body under certain conditions. A "protective" casket does not preserve the body. No casket, coffin or vault preserves the body.
I rewrote these lines, and moved them to what I think would be a better location in the article. I think there could beNPOV concerns here in regards to protective coffins, so I'm trying to tread lightly here.
JesseG 03:49, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
As far as I know his is correct, but there really should be a source for this claim. It is a ground to tread carefully because there are disputes about warranties and such regarding coffins that seal.PollitzerBK (talk)15:32, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Should I split the article into the articles "Coffin" and "Casket (funerary)"? There is a difference between the two! A coffin is hexagonal (like Lincoln's coffin at the top of the page) but a casket is square (like the new American style funeral casket). --69.158.124.43 (talk)20:14, 3 April 2009 (UTC)I'd like to make a change to the coffin article. A coffin and a casket are not interchangable. A coffin is tapered while a casket is a box-- North Americans don't seem to reaize the difference.[reply]
I'm not convinced by the definition of "pall" as a coffin during transport. Other sources suggest it's a cloth covering placed over a coffin, tomb, hearse, etc. (Different from a shroud, mind.)
In the Roman Catholic Church, a pall is a cloth (white) that covers the casket as the Mass of Christian Burial begins in the sanctuary. It is part of the rite and recalls the deceased person's baptism.
From Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate: "PALL 1 : PALLIUM 1a, 2 a : a square of linen usually stiffened with cardboard that is used to cover the chalice b (1) : a heavy cloth draped over a coffin (2) : a coffin especially when holding a body." ....though obviously not a sense of the word common in mainstream useage.Cryptonymius06:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's certainly not BrEng usageDiomedea Exulans (talk)05:50, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, thanks for that bit in the article. Also theWake article does distinguish between them ("a coffin or a casket ..."). In Germany, we saySarg for both - no distinctions. -andy80.129.122.814:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have heard this distinction mentioned before during a Discovery program which took a look inside how coffins were made. The commentator stated that despite mixed usage of the word coffins were the hexagonal shaped ones (commonly associated with Count Dracula and Halloween motifs), whereas caskets were the more modern rectangular shaped ones. I had never heard this distinction before which is why I checked here. If anything I would have thought the opposite as the word "coffin" is used much more and "casket" sounds older and more rudimentary - (like a pine wooden crate). It's interesting to learn that casket was a euphemism. Anyone here in the funeral business like to comment? --Acefox (talk)04:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
At the time I worked in the industry (late 1980s), the distinction between a coffin and a casket was that the latter was lined and the former was not. The shape didn't really enter into it, though "coffin shaped" was used to refer to the hexagonal type. You might even hear a particular model referred to as a "coffin-shaped casket." Also, at least at that time, no US State required the use of vaults, though the majority of cemeteries did and often tried to give the impression that there was a law to that effect. The sole function of the vault is to prevent ground subsidence if the coffin/casket deteriorates and collapses. It has never had anything to do with protecting the body.184.57.51.199 (talk)23:06, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
IN British English usage, a coffin is the name given to both what are called coffins and caskets in American English - there is no distinction.86.134.117.74 (talk)—Precedingundated comment added10:50, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Casket means box, anything from a small ring box up to a full size coffin can be called a casket. Coffin means funerary container. Casket is a euphemism for coffin and there is no real distinction made in ordinary North American speech except that people are more likely to say casket if they are trying to be polite. So the article falls down on accuracy and I think the second paragraph about the distinction is bad and should be edited.Halfelven (talk)21:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am planning to remove the section about manufacturers. There are manufacturers all over the world - in vast numbers. WP is not a telephone directory. Does anyone object?Maustrauser02:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The opening section states that remains are placed in a coffinafter cremation. I'd have sworn the remains must go in the box before cremation, and afterwards into a much smaller container, such as an urn...and the Wiki page on cremation appears to concur.Cryptonymius06:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to add a link in the external links section to www.china-caskets.com.
My reason for wanting to add this link is due to the increasing influence thatchina is having on the casket industry. The big US casket manufacturers areup in arms over this new trend thereby making it significant.Furthermore, the casket industry will change forever due to thisnew china influence.
Does any object to this link being added?—Precedingunsigned comment added byJghiggins (talk •contribs) 11:34, July 14, 2007
Is this statement really necessary within this section?"Examples of such showrooms can be seen on the A&E show Family Plots, and the HBO drama Six Feet Under."Because it interrupts the flow of an encyclopedic article.Optikill (talk)18:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article is a bit a mess. It's very disorganised, pretty repetitious, and despite attempts to the contrary keeps slipping back into seeing modern US customs as universal.Diomedea Exulans (talk)05:55, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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