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Growing up, I frequently heard that December 25, 1BC was chosen as Christmas / Jesus's birthday because that would cause hisBrit milah (circumcision ceremony), in which he'd formally be accepted into the Jewish community, to fall on January 1, AD1. However, I've not found any scholarly sources that back this claim. Has anyone else read this in any RSs? Is it purely anecdotal / coincidental?Jtrevor99 (talk)19:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Change "probably in 388" to "in 386" in the History section.
Reason: The scholarly consensus, as documented in the Catholic Encyclopedia andnumerous other sources, is that John Chrysostom delivered his Christmas sermon in Antioch in 386 AD, shortly after his ordination as presbyter in February of that year. While the scholar Usener proposed 388 as an alternative date, this view has been largely rejected. The current text "probably in 388" contradicts the accepted scholarly consensus of 386.Glitc5 (talk)16:21, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Can you please provide the sources you are talking about?NotJamestack (✉️|📝)16:43, 26 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: I don't think there are grounds to make this edit based on the Catholic Encyclopedia as thesole source for the claim. The Catholic Encyclopedia is infamously extremely out of date, having not been updated since 1907. It cannot reliably be used as a source for a claim about modern scholarly consensus. From a brief internet search, there also seem to be some concerns about bias in this encyclopedia on certain topics. If there are numerous sources, please cite some others, and the edit can be considered on the combined strength of the multiple sources.SI09 (talk)12:51, 27 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
