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Section sizes Section size forGenocide of indigenous peoples (93 sections) Section name Byte count Prose size (words) Header Total Header Total (Top) 8,343 8,343 233 233 Genocide debate 2,567 18,162 117 907 Broader conceptions of genocide 11,360 11,360 562 562 United Nations' definition of Genocide 4,235 4,235 228 228 Indigenous peoples of Europe (pre-1947) 47 17,551 0 669 British colonization of Ireland 6,729 6,729 248 248 Circassia 1,911 1,911 52 52 Scandinavia 2,345 2,345 27 27 Albanians 2,785 2,785 94 94 German colonization of Eastern Europe 47 2,594 0 190 Imperial era 835 835 73 73 Nazi era 1,712 1,712 117 117 Crimean Tatars, Krymchaks, Karaites 1,140 1,140 58 58 Indigenous peoples of the Americas (pre-1948) 7,049 78,540 297 4,985 Causes of indigenous deaths 1,868 1,868 196 196 Categorization as a genocide 7,825 7,825 646 646 Spanish colonization of the Americas 11,331 11,331 785 785 British colonization of the Americas 92 11,729 0 795 Beaver Wars 1,095 1,095 60 60 Kalinago genocide 1,830 1,830 164 164 Attempted extermination of the Pequot 4,502 4,502 308 308 Massacre of the Narragansett people 1,892 1,892 145 145 French and Indian War and Pontiac's War 2,318 2,318 118 118 Canada 437 437 16 16 Mexico 147 3,418 11 194 Apaches 1,057 1,057 67 67 Mayas 681 681 40 40 Yaquis 1,533 1,533 76 76 Argentina 4,051 4,051 163 163 Paraguay 1,593 1,593 140 140 Chile 2,757 2,757 67 67 Putumayo genocide 3,641 3,641 235 235 United States colonization of indigenous territories 5,772 22,286 354 1,398 Sterilization of native women 1,708 1,708 93 93 Native American boarding schools 2,952 2,952 198 198 Indian Removal 3,365 3,365 214 214 American Indian Wars 2,108 2,108 130 130 United States acquisition of California 6,381 6,381 409 409 Politics of modern Brazil 555 555 53 53 Indigenous peoples of Africa (pre-1948) 102 15,152 0 873 French colonization of Africa 38 2,067 0 145 Algeria 2,029 2,029 145 145 Congo Free State 965 965 57 57 Spanish colonization of the Canary Islands 3,070 3,070 139 139 German South West Africa 3,007 3,007 276 276 Italian occupied Libya 4,304 4,304 178 178 South Africa 1,637 1,637 78 78 Indigenous peoples of Asia (pre-1947) 44 34,225 0 2,645 Armenian genocide 3,687 3,687 416 416 Russian tsarist conquest of Siberia 9,131 9,131 621 621 Empire of Japan 24 11,115 0 917 Colonization of Hokkaido 4,276 4,276 227 227 Colonization of Ryukyu 5,437 5,437 635 635 Cultural genocide in Korea 1,378 1,378 55 55 Vietnamese conquest of Champa 1,382 1,382 124 124 Qing dynasty 22 3,453 0 218 Dzungar genocide 3,431 3,431 218 218 Bandanese massacre 291 291 31 31 March across Samar 2,408 2,408 167 167 Famines in British India 2,714 2,714 151 151 Indigenous peoples of Oceania (pre-1945) 47 11,737 0 742 Australia 8,651 8,651 626 626 New Zealand 2,174 2,174 54 54 Blackbirding in the Pacific Islands 865 865 62 62 Contemporary examples 9,239 85,410 145 3,391 Afghanistan 1,468 1,468 41 41 Bangladesh 4,767 4,767 207 207 Brazil 2,100 2,100 270 270 Canada 4,787 4,787 167 167 China 15 27,092 0 442 Tibet 2,027 2,027 64 64 Xinjiang 22,061 22,061 224 224 Inner Mongolia 2,989 2,989 154 154 Colombia 2,670 2,670 81 81 Congo (DRC) 2,347 2,347 146 146 Darfur 332 332 36 36 East Timor 3,615 3,615 296 296 Guatemala 2,978 2,978 237 237 Indonesia 2,628 2,628 300 300 Myanmar/Burma 3,474 3,474 185 185 Palestine 5,614 5,614 110 110 Paraguay 1,635 1,635 227 227 Peru 1,086 1,086 55 55 Sri Lanka 5,236 5,236 226 226 Tigray 777 777 25 25 Yazidi genocide in Iraq 3,565 3,565 195 195 Denialism 106 106 0 0 See also 361 361 0 0 Notes 26 26 0 0 References 17 39,340 0 0 Citations 31 31 0 0 Sources 39,292 39,292 0 0 Further reading 4,882 4,882 0 0 Total 313,835 313,835 14,445 14,445

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TheNellie massacre is a reverse example and does not belong here. The victims, in this case, were migrants and the perpetrators were indigenous.Chaipau (talk)15:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently more info on this topic in the overview article. The imbalance should be fixed by merging or summary style. (t ·c)buidhe23:17, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Too little meat for such a big fork ;) —kashmīrī ^TALK00:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

yup....support mergeMoxy🍁16:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very weak oppose, there is probably much more that can be written about this topic than would fit in a section here. But since it presently isn't written, I agree a merge with the redirect tagged{{R with possibilities}} and probably with a see also link toCanadian Indian residential school system (where most of the writing we do have on this topic is) would be appropriate.Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits)19:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Canadians originally had a standalone article..... like many other nations..... however they were all merged here many moons ago. I'd rather see everything merged out of here into its own article. As perWP:Does deletion help.Moxy🍁20:34, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Would seem to warrant its own article (though perhaps its scope could be extended toGenocide of Indigenous peoples in Canada). Summary style is the solution.Graham (talk)05:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong oppose. I could see expanding this intoGenocide of Indigenous peoples in Canada but not merging inGenocide of Indigenous peoples, which has a worldwide context.Yuchitown (talk)15:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like this discussion should be taking place atTalk:Canadian genocide of the First Nations. Right nowGenocide of Indigenous peoples is beyond 5 times larger than the recommended article length. The information here about Canadian First Nations should be transferred toCanadian genocide of the First Nations and then summarized here.Yuchitown (talk)15:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong oppose -- this article already too long. Agree with Yuchitown that this article should be split and summarized. oncamera _{(talk page)}18:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The following text has been added and removed from the article several times over the past couple months. It had been included under the "contemporary examples" section, under the subheading "Israel", and had a{{main article}} link toPalestinian genocide accusation. Should this, or some version of it, be included in this article?

Throughout the extendedIsraeli-Palestinian conflict, theState of Israel has been accused of committing a genocide against Palestinians. Events such as theNakba, theSabra and Shatila massacre, theblockade of the Gaza Strip, the2014 Gaza War, and the 2023Israel–Hamas war have been used as examples of evidence for a genocide committed by Israel.^[1] Statements made by Israeli officials have also been described by genocide scholars as dehumanizing the population of Gaza and used as evidence for "genocidal intent."^[2]

--Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits)20:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a very sensitive topic, and presenting this detail could be misconstrued as favoring one side over the other. Ideally, encyclopedia entries should strive for neutrality and avoid letting narratives influence factual information. Both Israelis and Palestinians have historical claims to the land, and both can be described as indigienous by some and colonists by others. Because of that complexity, I don't think this info is relevant for this article at all. 13:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)ABHammad (talk)13:27, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - there can be no reasonable debate as to whether or not Israel's actions in either the current conflict or the entire Israeli-Palestinian conflict have been described by some prominent writers as genocide; we have a whole article about it which currently cites 379 sources. The question I suppose is whether or not Palestinians are considered an indigenous people. I don't know if that question is settled, and/or what the implications are for this discussion either way, so I'm going to wait for more comments before giving an opinion.Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits)20:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Leaning no. Arabs (including the ancestors of the people now using the demonymPalestinian) came in later, meanwhile the Jews (descended of the earlier Canaanite population there) were pushed out of this area for many centuries, with modern-day Israel later being established over the course of ca. 1920-48 through Jewish re-immigration. So, looking at it one way, both of these Semitic groups have a claim to being indigenous in some sense, and looking at it another more restrictive way, neither of them do. So, there is not clearly a case here of a colonial people imposing genocide on an indigenous people (even if there is mounting evidence that something genocidal is happening). It's either a newer colonial group oppressing an earlier but also colonial one; or a former and recently restored indigenous group oppressing an intermediary group that is also indigenous within a modern contextual understanding. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 04:39, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• No -(Summoned by bot) The Israel-Palestinian conflict with history going back to 1947-48 is a political conflict, national conflict, and perhaps an inter-communal conflict. It can't be categorised as a conflict between "indigenous" and "non-indigenous" people. That topic doesn't belong here. --Kautilya3 (talk)19:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Absolutely there is no reason not to include what is neutral, reliably sourced and notable. The fact that the Palestinians are indigenous to the area is undisputed, and so is the fact that the overwhelming majority of Israel's Jews migrated from elsewhere (they made aliyah from other countries). Those who are not familiar with the topic should readNakba, theNakba denial and thePalestinian genocide accusation (the second is an eye-opener).M.Bitton (talk)21:25, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• No. Neither the population of modern Israel nor the inhabitants of Palestine can be uncontroversially termed asindigenous people. The former started settling down in larger numbers in the first half of the 20th century, being a very diverse group genetically and culturally; the latter were either nomadic Bedouins or similarly descendants of migrants from a few centuries earlier. No modern-day ethnic group can claim to be native to the current Israel-Palestine region IMO, so it would be a bad example for the article. See also SMcCandlish's excellent comment. —kashmīrī ^TALK21:46, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Comparing those who have always lived there to those who arrived in living memory is rather strange. By that that standard, no ethnic group can ever be described as indigenous to anywhere but Africa (where it all started).M.Bitton (talk)23:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes. People who are arguing it doesn't belong because Palestinians "aren't indigenous to Palestine" better start removing the section on Afghanistan, since the Hazaras have Mongol origin (gasp!). Oh, and the Chakma people of Bangladesh "gradually migrated to Arakan and extended their territory to the nearby hills of the Chittagong Hill Tracts", so they're not indigenous to the region either. Oh right, and the Uyghurs, they descend from diverse Turkic and Mongolic populations of Central Asia that settled gradually in East Turkistan, so... they're not indigenous either... Hmmm... Well, why stop there? By y'all's logic the Mongols of Inner Mongolia aren't indigenous either! And the Karen only migrated into Myanmar about 1500 years ago! And Yazidis only emerged in Iraq in the 12th century! Our very own article onindigenous peoples states that "there is no generally accepted definition of Indigenous peoples" but that "the focus has been onself-identification,cultural difference from other groups in a state, a specialrelationship with their traditional territory, and an experience ofsubjugation and discrimination under a dominant cultural model, all of which apply to Palestinians in Palestine, as the sources state. There is no justifiable reason to exclude this information.Dylanvt (talk)02:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Alsocomment. Here are more scholarly sources that discuss genocide against Palestiniansand refer to them as an indigenous people:

1. Nijim, M. (2023). Genocide in Palestine: Gaza as a case study.The International Journal of Human Rights, 27(1), 165–200.https://doi.org/10.1080/13642987.2022.2065261
2. Rashed, H. & D. Short (2012). Genocide and settler colonialism: can a Lemkin-inspired genocide perspective aid our understanding of the Palestinian situation?The International Journal of Human Rights, 16(8), 1142–1169.http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/13642987.2012.735494
3. Masalha, N. (2015). Settler-Colonialism, Memoricide and Indigenous Toponymic Memory: The Appropriation of Palestinian Place Names by the Israeli State.Journal of Holy Land and Palestine Studies, 14(1), 3–57.https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/abs/10.3366/hlps.2015.0103
4. Barakat, R. (2018). Writing/righting Palestine studies: settler colonialism, indigenous sovereignty and resisting the ghost(s) of history.Settler colonial studies, 8(3), 349-363.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/2201473X.2017.1300048
5. Rashed, H., Short, D., & Docker, J. (2014). Nakba memoricide: genocide studies and the Zionist/Israeli genocide of Palestine.Holy Land Studies, 13(1), 1-23.https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/abs/10.3366/hls.2014.0076
6. Shalhoub-Kevorkian, N. (2014). Human suffering in colonial contexts: Reflections from Palestine.Settler Colonial Studies, 4(3), 277-290.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2201473X.2013.859979

• Is this enough for you all???Dylanvt (talk)02:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• No, technically there probably are no 'indigenous peoples'. Almost everyone, almost everywhere has supplanted an earlier group, so the only practical WP criteria is whether the 'supplanted' are generally seen and referred to as 'indigenous'. Although there clearly are some sources, they don't come anywhere near the number required to make the assertion that the Palestinians - rather than the ancestors of Israeli Jews, are the 'indigenous people'. I commend SMcCandlish's and Ivanvector's summaries of the main issues.Pincrete (talk)05:43, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  You commend SMcCandlish'sWP:OR on whether Palestinians are considered indigenous, but ignore the 6 peer-reviewed scholarly sources linked right above this that consider Palestinians indigenous?Dylanvt (talk)12:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Genocide of Indigenous peoples →Genocide of indigenous peoples – "Indigenous" is only a proper name when adopted as conventional for a particular ethnic group, and when applied to the specific groups who have done so. As a general, global adjective it is not and cannot be a proper name (any more than the opposite, "colonial"), so should not be capitalized. See in particular the lead paragraph ofMOS:CAPS: WP does not capitalize that which is not capitalized consistently across nearly all independent reliable sources, and "indigenous peoples" is not so capitalized (indeed, it is overwhelmingly lowercase[1][2], except in highly retrictive contexts that refer to specific populations who have adopted the term self-referentially as a name in English). This same situation is true of all such terms such as "native" and "aboriginal". "Aboriginal" is capitalized in reference to native Australians, and "Native" is capitalized in "Native Americans" in reference to the aboribinal peoples of what is now the US and sometimes (in American usage) all of the Americas. But "native" is not capitalized (by the preponderance of modern reliable sources) in reference to Australians, nor "aboriginal" in reference to Americans, and neither is capitalized in "the native (aboriginal) peoples and languages of Siberia and Central Asia before the Soviet Union", etc. PS: There may be other over-capitalized articles of this sort, but perhaps take them one at a time, since some might pertain more narrowly to groups that have taken on "Indigenous" as a self-referential name/label. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 04:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support - per nom, who left nothing in need of saying.Primergrey (talk) 08:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)Primergrey (talk)08:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support – Per above.Svartner (talk)08:33, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - per nom.Psychastes (talk)13:49, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - I was thinking the same thing, SMcCandlish beat me to it.Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits)14:43, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I have to change tooppose after thinking about this some more. The style guides that were posted below by Yuchitown are pretty convincing, for one thing. I don't disagree with SMcCandlish, but I think there's confusion with thepart of speech that the word represents in this title. Take for example the phrase, "The Indigenous Peoples of Canada are the people who are indigenous to the land now known as Canada", which I believe is correctly capitalized. The first "Indigenous" here is part of a proper noun referring to specific groups of people, which would be capitalized in any context. The second "indigenous" is an adjective, describing a property of its subject ("the people"); the style guides are in disagreement or ambiguous as to whether the word should be capitalized in its adjective sense. But that's irrelevant: "Indigenous" in the title still refers to specific groups; even if the specific group is "all Indigenous Peoples" it's still a group, and therefore it should be capitalized. The style guides are also ambiguous as to whether or not "people" should be capitalized in this context, but I think we're fine to leave it as is.Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits)14:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom.Graham (talk)05:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong oppose. SeeWP:INDIGENOUS andMOS:RACECAPS.Indigenous is capitalized when referring to human beings, as per WP:MOS, as well asAP style,Chicago style,APA style, etc. Absolutely no good reason to go against the well-established styles in scholarly literature, mainstream news, and Wikipedia.Yuchitown (talk)15:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong oppose, goes against Wikipedia policy perWP:INDIGENOUS andMOS:RACECAPS. oncamera _{(talk page)}18:38, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose changing/moving Indigenous (upper case) to indigenous (lower case). When Indigenous is used to describe human beings, communities, individuals (rather than things like plants or rocks) it should be capitalized (this also goes for citizenship, tribes). Per WP's own guidelinesWP:INDIGENOUS andMOS:RACECAPS in addition to the:APA Style Manual which states:"Capitalize 'Indigenous' and 'Aboriginal' whenever they are used.; theChicago Manual of Style which states:"We would capitalize 'Indigenous' in both contexts: that of Indigenous people and groups, on the one hand, and Indigenous culture and society, on the other. Lowercase 'indigenous' would be reserved for contexts in which the term does not apply to Indigenous people in any sense—for example, indigenous plant and animal species."; and the theAssociated Press 2019 Stylebook states:"The news organization will also now capitalize Indigenous in reference to original inhabitants of a place.". TheIndigenous Journalists Association (formerly the Native American Journalists Association) also follows the AP stylebook.[3].Netherzone (talk)14:33, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Support Not persuaded by the opposing votes and I findWP:INDIGENOUS vague and excessively Americacentric. The article covers indigenous group all around the world and should be seen as an umbrella term in the title, not something referring to individuals and their citizenship.Killuminator (talk)16:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong support per my commenthere. —kashmīrī ^TALK21:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SupportWP:INDIGENOUS is incredibly US-centric and doesn't deal with the use of indigenous in this global sense.Traumnovelle (talk)04:01, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong oppose - The title in question it is part of the proper noun. We can have separate argument whether indigenous should always be capitalized when describing people because it is always part of the proper noun but in this case it absolutely is and should be kept how it is. I don't see a compelling argument made here in support based on MOS or policy. The only argument is it being America or US-centric but that is not a policy based argument. It is an opinion based argument and entirely subjective and somewhat overplayed.WP:LOCALCON come into play here as well. --ARoseWolf12:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivanvector andDylanvt: I just wanted to let you know that the same editors have been removing the perfectly sourced and neutral section for no reason whatsoever (the cited ONUS is obviously BS).M.Bitton (talk)19:19, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@האופה:WP:ONUS is neither an explanation nor a valid reason for you to edit war over the content that you want to keep out of the article. Feel free to provide one (if it exists).M.Bitton (talk)19:24, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm ignoring them, no edit warring. I started an RFC instead a few sections up; you and they are free to comment. (@ABHammad,O.maximov, andהאופה: courtesy ping)Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits)19:29, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I have fully protected the page, because the edit war is speeding up. Hopefully by then consensus will be reached.PhilKnight (talk)19:56, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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