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John Henry Lloyd

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Negro league baseball player (1884–1964)
For other people named John Lloyd, seeJohn Lloyd (disambiguation).
"el Cuchara" redirects here. For other uses, seeCuchara.
Baseball player
John Henry Lloyd
Lloyd in 1924
Shortstop
Born:(1884-04-25)April 25, 1884
Palatka, Florida, U.S.
Died: March 19, 1964(1964-03-19) (aged 79)
Atlantic City, New Jersey, U.S.
Batted: Left
Threw: Right
Negro league debut
1906, Cuban X-Giants
Last Negro leagues appearance
1932, Bacharach Giants
Negro leagues[a] statistics
Batting average.349
Hits569
Home runs16
Runs batted in308
Managerial record253–236–10
Winning %.517
Managerial record atBaseball Reference Edit this at Wikidata
Teams
As player

As manager

Career highlights and awards
Member of the National
Baseball Hall of Fame
Induction1977
Election methodNegro Leagues Committee

John Henry Lloyd (April 25, 1884 – March 19, 1964),[b] nicknamed "Pop" and "El Cuchara", was an Americanbaseballshortstop andmanager in theNegro leagues. During his 27-year career, he played for many teams and had a .343batting average. Lloyd is considered to be the greatest shortstop in Negro league history, and he was inducted into theNational Baseball Hall of Fame in 1977.

Early life

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Lloyd is thought to have been born inPalatka, Florida.[c] He was a descendant of slaves, and his father died when Lloyd was a baby.[8]

Lloyd's maternal grandmother, Maria Jenkins, raised him in Jacksonville. Jenkins had lived in Jacksonville prior to moving to Palatka. The return to Jacksonville may have been prompted by a great fire that had damaged businesses and changed the overall economic situation in Palatka.[8] Before Lloyd completed elementary school, he had to go to work full-time. Early on, he delivered items for a grocery store, and then he became a railroad porter.[9]

Baseball career

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Early career (1905–20)

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Lloyd began his professional baseball career in 1905, playingcatcher for the Acmes ofMacon, Georgia. He playedsecond base with theCuban X-Giants of Philadelphia in 1906.

The following season,Sol White signed him for the X Giants' archrivals, thePhiladelphia Giants, and moved him to shortstop, where he would remain through the bulk of his career. Sportswriters Harry Daniels andJimmy Smith both named Lloyd to their 1909 "All American Team" saying he "is a wonder at fielding and hitting, also a fair base runner."[10] At various points in his baseball career, Lloyd worked non-baseball jobs due to the precarious financial situations of the black leagues.[11]

1912 Lincoln Giants

In 1910, Lloyd acceptedRube Foster's invitation to join theChicago Leland Giants, where he anchored a team that Foster described as the greatest of all time. He rejoined White on the newly-organizedLincoln Giants in 1911, batting .475 against all competition.

Lloyd took over as player-manager for 1912 and 1913, and in the latter year the Lincolns defeated theChicago American Giants in a playoff series to become the undisputed champions of black baseball.

In 1914, Lloyd travelled west again to play for the American Giants. He split the 1915 season between the New York-basedLincoln Stars and the American Giants, then spent all of 1916 and 1917 with Foster's team. In 1918, Lloyd served as player-manager of theBrooklyn Royal Giants, leaving the club early to work for the Army Quartermaster Depot in Chicago. 1919 saw him join theBacharach Giants of Atlantic City, then 1920 found him back with the Royal Giants.[6]

Later career (1921–32)

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In 1921, he was hired to organize a new team in Foster's youngNegro National League. Lloyd'sColumbus Buckeyes were not a notable success, however, on the field or in the box office, finishing seventh in a field of eight, and folded upon season's end. The following year, Lloyd was back in the east managing theBacharach Giants, who had moved to New York City.

When theEastern Colored League was formed in 1923,Ed Bolden hired Lloyd to manage theHilldale Club. Lloyd brought home the first ECL pennant by a wide margin, guiding Hilldale to a 32–17 league record. He did not get along with Bolden, was suspended in early September, and was fired at the end of the season.[12] In 1924, Lloyd returned to the Bacharachs, now based again in Atlantic City.[13] With the brilliant young shortstopDick Lundy on the roster, the 40-year-old Lloyd moved himself to second base. He hit .444 to win the 1924 ECL batting title, at one point reeling off 11 straight base hits. The Bacharachs, however, were merely average under Lloyd during his two years there, finishing fourth both seasons (with records of 30–29 and 26–27).

TheLincoln Giants, who had finished in last place in 1925, hired Lloyd to manage them for 1926. They improved to fifth (19–22), then played 1927 and most of 1928 as an independent club. It was during the latter season that Lloyd moved himself to first base while enjoying a fine season at the plate, batting .402 against top black clubs. In 1929, the Lincolns compiled the second-best overall record (40–26) in theAmerican Negro League. Lloyd finished up his career managing theBacharach Giants in 1931–32.

Lloyd played extensively in Cuba, beginning with a 1907 visit toHavana by the Philadelphia Giants. Altogether he spent 12 seasons in theCuban League from 1908/09 to 1930, batting .329 for his career, and playing on three championship teams (Habana in 1912 andAlmendares in 1924/25 and 1925/26). In Cuba he was called "El Cuchara", which translates to "The Shovel" or "The Tablespoon", a reference to his ability to field batted balls.[14]

According to the historian John Holway, Lloyd batted .337 (970 hits in 2881 at bats) in the Negro leagues. According to a study sponsored by theNational Baseball Hall of Fame that covers the organized (post-1920) Negro leagues, Lloyd batted .343 with a .450 slugging percentage.[15]

Legacy

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Plaque of Lloyd at theBaseball Hall of Fame

Lloyd was a heavy hitter, usually batting cleanup during his prime, but also knew how to play "inside baseball" and was an expert place-hitter and bunter. He is generally considered the greatest shortstop in Negro league history, andBabe Ruth reportedly believed Lloyd to be the greatest baseball player ever.[16][17] Lloyd was called the "Black Wagner", a reference toPittsburgh Pirates Hall of FamerHonus Wagner. On Lloyd, Wagner said "It's an honor to be compared to him."[18] WriterBill James ranked Lloyd as the 27th greatest baseball player of all-time in the 2001 bookThe New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract.[19]

Lloyd was probably the most sought-after African-American player of his generation. "Wherever the money was, that's where I was," he once said. His career record bears this out, showing him constantly moving from team to team. He was also known for his gentlemanly conduct.

Lloyd was posthumously inducted into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 1977. He was nominated, along with several athletes and other public figures, for induction into theNew Jersey Hall of Fame in 2014. However, basketball playerPatrick Ewing was the only sportsperson inducted.[20][21]

In April 2025, Atlantic City reopened a renovated community baseball stadium and named it Pop Lloyd Stadium in Lloyd's honor.[22]

Later life

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After his professional playing days, Lloyd lived inAtlantic City, New Jersey.[23] He was a player-coach for the semiprofessional Atlantic City Johnson Stars until 1942.[24] The team was named after politicoNucky Johnson and was later known as the Farley Stars after powerful state senatorFrank S. Farley. (Farley had driven the creation of Atlantic City's Pop Lloyd Field to gain support from the city's large black population.)[25] Lloyd could not run well by that time, and he shifted to playing first base, but a former teammate said that he was still able to hit line drives.[26]

Lloyd was a janitor for the Atlantic City School System, includingAtlantic City High School.[27] Though he did not have any children, Lloyd became a popular coach in the local youth baseball league.[28] He died in 1964.[27]

Notes

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  1. ^On December 16, 2020, Major League Baseball declared the Negro leagues, from the span of 1920–1948, to be a "Major League".[1] Lloyd's statistics reflect his time in the Negro leagues from 1921 and from 1923 to 1929.
  2. ^There has been some confusion about Pop Lloyd's death date. The 1965 date is the one given byRobert W. Peterson's pioneering work on the Negro leagues,Only the Ball Was White, and has often been repeated (including in Peterson's recently-reissued paperback edition). There is no reference to Lloyd in the necrology of either the 1965 or 1966 editions ofThe Sporting News Baseball Guide. However, as shown on the Find a Grave website[1], his headstone says 1964, although the article text repeats the 1965 date; and various newspapers, such as the BaltimoreAfro-American for March 24, 1964, confirm that 1964 is the correct year of his death.
  3. ^In an interview for the bookOnly the Ball Was White, Lloyd's widow told Peterson that Lloyd was born in Palatka. According to biographer Wes Singletary, Lloyd's widow later amended his place of birth to Gainesville, Florida. Lloyd himself listed Jacksonville, Florida as his place of birth on official paperwork.

References

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  1. ^"MLB officially designates the Negro Leagues as 'Major League'".MLB.com. December 16, 2020. RetrievedAugust 7, 2023.
  2. ^"Philadelphia Giants Subdue Leland Giants" Indianapolis Freeman, Indianapolis, Indiana, Saturday, August 21, 1909, Page 7, Columns 3 and 4
  3. ^"Diamond Dashes" Indianapolis Freeman, Indianapolis, IN, Saturday, August 27, 1910, Page 4, Columns 5 and 6
  4. ^"Lincoln Giants Win First Two Games in Championship Series" Indianapolis Freeman, Indianapolis, Indiana, Saturday, August 2, 1913, Page 4, Columns 3 and 4
  5. ^"All Nations Tackle the American Giants" Chicago Defender, Big Weekend Edition, Chicago, IL, October 7, 1916, Page 7
  6. ^ab"Giants Too Much for Cubs" Oneonta Daily Star, Oneonta, NY, August 19, 1920, Page 2, Columns 1, 2, and 3
  7. ^"Empey Has Fine Bill" New York Sun, New York, NY, Page 4, Column 2
  8. ^abSingletary, pp. 8-9.
  9. ^Hoblin, Paul (2012).Great Hitters of the Negro Leagues. ABDO Publishing Company. p. 7.ISBN 978-1614803218. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  10. ^"The Base Ball Spirit In The East." Indianapolis Freeman, Indianapolis, Indiana, Saturday, December 25, 1909, Page 7, Columns 1 and 2
  11. ^Paul Adomites; David Nemec; Matthew D. Greenberger; Dan Scholssberg; Dick Johnson; Mike Tully; Pete Palmer; Stuart Shea (2002).Cooperstown: Hall of Fame Players. Publications International, Ltd. p. 99.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  12. ^PittsburghCourier, 10/06/1923
  13. ^"Bacharach Will Have Fast Club".Evening News. March 13, 1924. p. 20. RetrievedFebruary 1, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.
  14. ^"Lloyd, Pop".Baseball Hall of Fame. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  15. ^*Hogan, Lawrence D., ed. (2006),Shades of Glory: The Negro Leagues and the Story of African-American Baseball, Washington DC: National Geographic, pp. 381, 392–95,ISBN 0-7922-5306-X
  16. ^Riley, p. 489.
  17. ^Anselmo, p. 8.
  18. ^DeValeria, Dennis and Jeanne Burke.Honus Wagner: A Biography. Pittsburgh; University of Pittsburgh Press, 1995, p.23
  19. ^James, Bill (2001).The New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract. p. 361.
  20. ^"2014 nominees".New Jersey Hall of Fame. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  21. ^"New Jersey Hall of Fame Class of 2014 announced".New Jersey Hall of Fame. 31 July 2014. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  22. ^Abandoned Jersey Shore stadium named after Negro League star reopens after $5.6M upgrade,NJ.com, Apr. 30, 2025
  23. ^"Pop Lloyd, Peace Pilgrim on ballot for New Jersey Hall of Fame".The Press of Atlantic City. 23 May 2014. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  24. ^Mattessich, Carole (August 28, 2008)."Diamond pioneer".Atlantic City Weekly. Archived fromthe original on December 17, 2014. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  25. ^PBS History Detectives, "Pop Lloyd's Baseball Field," original air date: 14 July 2003 (season 1, episode 1) [television program].
  26. ^DePalma, Anthony (April 26, 1992)."About New Jersey".The New York Times. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  27. ^abHoffman, Lori."Pop Lloyd's Northside Empire".Atlantic City Weekly. Archived fromthe original on December 17, 2014. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.
  28. ^Coyne, Kevin (July 29, 2006)."A revival as tribute, with six bats and a mask".The New York Times. RetrievedDecember 17, 2014.

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