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Derby County F.C.–Nottingham Forest F.C. rivalry

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The Brian Clough derby
LocationEast Midlands
TeamsDerby County,Nottingham Forest
First meetingDerby County 2–3 Nottingham Forest
1892–93 First Division
(1 October 1892)
Latest meetingNottingham Forest 2–1 Derby County
EFL Championship
(22 January 2022)
Next meetingTBD
StadiumsPride Park Stadium
City Ground
Statistics
Meetings total109
Most winsNottingham Forest (43)
Top scorerSteve Bloomer
All-time seriesDerby County: 38
Drawn: 30
Nottingham Forest: 43
Largest victoryDerby County 5–0 Nottingham Forest
(11 April 1898) & (22 March 2014)
Longest win streakNottingham Forest (5)
Longest unbeaten streakNottingham Forest (10)
Derby County F.C.–Nottingham Forest F.C. rivalry is located in the East Midlands
Derby County
Derby County
Nottingham Forest
Nottingham Forest

Football matches held betweenDerby County F.C. andNottingham Forest F.C. are often referred to as an'East Midlands Derby'and are the focus of a lengthy and intense rivalry. According to an unofficial survey on 'football rivalries' the 'East Midlands Derby' is the sixth fiercest rivalry in English football, with 9 out of 10 fans from the two clubs naming the other as their "fiercest rival".[1]

Since 2007, the winning team of a Derby vs Forest match has been awarded theBrian Clough Trophy, in memory ofBrian Clough, who managed both clubs during his long and successful football career. The inaugural match for the trophy was held at Derby'sPride Park Stadium on 31 July 2007, in which the host team won 2–0. Forest are the current holders, having retained the trophy after a 2–1 win at Nottingham'sCity Ground on 22 January 2022. Since the inauguration of the Brian Clough Trophy, fans from both sides have nicknamed the fixtureEl Cloughico, in reference to theEl Clásico rivalry between Spanish football teams FC Barcelona and Real Madrid CF.[2]

The fixture is seen as one of the biggest rivalries in English football, spanning back over 100 years. Hooliganism and violence is a common occurrence at the fixture.

History

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Comparative chart of yearly League positions of County and Forest

The first meeting ofDerby County andNottingham Forest came in the1892–93 First Division. Derby, founder members ofthe Football League in 1888, had finished in 10th place inthe previous campaign, whereas Forest had been competing in the rivalFootball Alliance, and had won the title in thecompetition's final year. Following theabsorption of the Alliance by the Football League in 1892, Forest were invited to join the newly expandedFootball League First Division due to being one of the alliance's three strongest clubs. The first competitive fixture between the two teams was duly held on 1 October 1892 at theRacecourse Ground in the Football League Division One, which Nottingham Forest won 3–2. The return fixture in January 1893 also ended in victory for Nottingham Forest, this time 1–0. It was not until the1894–95 season that Derby secured a first win over their future rivals, coming out on top 4–2 in September 1894.

Although the clubs are rivals because of their geographical proximity, the rivalry intensified towards the late 1970s whenBrian Clough was appointed Forest manager, much to the dismay of the Derby support – in factDuncan Hamilton, writing inThe Times, has remarked that the rivalry is as much about which club owns Clough's heart as about the proximity of the clubs geographically.[3]

On 2 November 2008, refereeStuart Attwell became the centre of attention when he disallowed two Derby goals in the final few minutes and booked eight players and issued a straight red card to Forest midfielderLewis McGugan.[4] Derby bossPaul Jewell was especially vocal in his dismay at Attwell's performance, accusing the 25-year-old official of 'losing control' of the game and 'robbing' the Rams of a victory.[5] The press furore around his display[6] led to Attwell being called in for a meeting with Referee's ChiefKeith Hackett[7] and he was consequently axed from the following week's fixture list.[8] Days after the game, Jewell said that a member ofthe Football Association had contacted him and told him that the second goal should have stood.[9]

Animosity between the clubs grew even further with the appointment of former Derby managerBilly Davies at Forest in December 2009, along with the signing of several former Derby players inLee Camp,Robert Earnshaw andDexter Blackstock, and the appointment ofNigel Clough as Derby manager, along with the signing of former Forest favouriteKris Commons atPride Park. Two fractious FA Cup ties, including one in which Derby came from 2–0 down to win 3–2 and win at theCity Ground for the first time since 1971, did not help matters andRobbie Savage's post-match scarf waving did not endear him to the Forest support.[citation needed] Following a match on 29 August 2009, in which Forest won 3–2 to secure their first victory over Derby in 612 years, a post-match scuffle broke out between the Derby and Forest players afterNathan Tyson, in reaction to Savage's scarf waving the previous season, celebrated in front of the Derby County fans with a corner flag that had the Nottingham Forest logo on it, an incident the FA said it would investigate with some 'urgency'[10] the result of which saw both clubs fined for failing to control their players and Tyson charged with improper conduct.[11] Derby were fined £20,000, of which £10,000 was suspended, and ordered to pay £400 costs; Nottingham Forest were fined £25,000, of which £10,000 was suspended, and ordered to pay £1,200 costs; and Tyson was fined £5,000.[12] A second brawl broke out during the return fixture in January 2010 afterChris Gunter andJay McEveley clashed when the latter refused to give up the ball for a Forest throw-in. The FA announced it would investigate the brawl[13] whilst former Derby manager Billy Davies claimed that Nigel Clough had "attacked" him during the melee and made a formal complaint to the League Managers' Association.[14] The fixture also saw players sent off in four consecutive meetings from January 2011; two for Derby (Dean Moxey andFrank Fielding) and two for Forest (Marcus Tudgay and Dexter Blackstock, both former Derby players).

In the 2011–12 season, Derby claimed a first league double in the fixture since 1972 on their way to winning the League title. At the City Ground meeting, Derby recovered from being a man and goal down after five minutes, to winning 2–1 at the City Ground beforeJake Buxton's stoppage timer own goal earned a 1–0 loss in the second match. Derby's success in the fixture continued into the 2012–13 season with yet another City Ground victory, their fourth in six trips to the stadium.[15] Both teams claimed a home victory in the 2013–14 season: Forest won 1–0 at the City Ground in September,[16] but Derby then won 5–0 at Pride Park in March 2014, equalling the record margin of victory in the fixture's history.[17] The next meeting ended in a 1–1 draw at the City Ground in September 2014,[18] followed by a 2–1 victory for Nottingham Forest at Pride Park in January 2015.[19] In March 2017, the match held at the City Ground was drawn 2–2,[20] with Derby winning 2–0 at Pride Park in October.[21] Having spent thirteen years together in theEFL Championship, at the end of the 2021-22 season Forest were promoted to thePremier League while Derby were relegated toEFL League One.[22]

Head to head record

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Last updated on 22 January 2022.

Major competitions

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CompetitionPlayedDerby CountyDrawNottingham ForestDerby County
Goals
Nottingham Forest
Goals
League99332739146143
FA Cup8422128
League Cup200215
Totals109372943158155

Minor competitions

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There have been a further 25 meetings in various minor competitions of varying importance. The majority of these have come in Wartime competitions, such as the Wartime Cup and the regionalised Football Leagues, set up duringWorld War I andWorld War II to keep football running during the conflicts. There was also one meeting in theAnglo-Italian Cup.

CompetitionPlayedDerby CountyDrawNottingham ForestDerby County
Goals
Nottingham Forest
Goals
Anglo-Italian Cup110032
Football League (N)63121512
Football League (S)211043
Midland Section4103713
United Central League421162
VE Celebration Match101022
VJ Celebration Match110041
Football League War Cup6321108
Totals2512675143

All competitions

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CompetitionPlayedDerby CountyDrawNottingham ForestDerby County
Goals
Nottingham Forest
Goals
Major Competitions108372943158155
Minor Competitions2512675343
Totals133493550211198

Honours

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As of 29 October 2025

The following list of honours contains only major trophies.

DerbyCompetitionForest
Domestic
2First Division/Premier League1
1FA Cup2
0EFL Cup4
1Community Shield1
European and Worldwide
0UEFA Champions League2
0UEFA Super Cup1
4Total11

Crossing the divide

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Since World War II, some 30 players have played for both clubs, the majority of these moves coming in the 1970s and 1980s. The most famous individual to have represented both clubs, however, is unquestionably the man regarded as the greatest manager in the history of both: Brian Clough.

Management

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The first man to be involved in management at both clubs wasHarold Wightman. A player with Derby between 1919 and 1927, Wightman was assistant at Derby underGeorge Jobey and was later appointed Forest manager between 1936 and 1939.Peter Taylor followed a similar path, he was assistant manager at both Derby and Forest, becoming Derby's full manager in 1982.

The first man to manage both clubs wasDave Mackay, who managed Forest between 1972 and 1973 before joining Derby in 1973 as the replacement for Brian Clough, the man who would eventually become the second man to manage both clubs. Mackay won the First Division title for Derby in 1974–75, which was Derby's second First Division title in four seasons.

Clough managed Derby County between June 1967 and October 1973, winning theSecond Division title to gain promotion in 1968–69, and winning the First Division title in 1971–72. This was followed up by a controversialEuropean Cup semi final loss toJuventus during the 1972–73 season. Clough joined Nottingham Forest in January 1975, following spells withBrighton and the famous 44 days in charge atLeeds Utd. Clough took over from Mackay's initial replacementAllan Brown, with Forest struggling in the Second Division. In 1977–78, Forest won the First Division title in their first season after gaining promotion from the Second Division, having won theLeague Cup earlier in the 1977–78 season. In 1978–79, Forest retained the League Cup and won the European Cup. In 1979–80, Forest narrowly missed out on winning a third League Cup in a row, as they lost toWolves in the final, but they did retain the European Cup. Forest won 2 more League Cups later on in Clough's managerial reign. Clough won the First Division with both Forest and Derby, becoming the first man to win it with two different clubs sinceHerbert Chapman. He left the club in 1993.

On 31 December 2008, it was announced that Billy Davies was to become the new manager at Forest. Davies had been out of work following his dismissal at Derby in November 2007, making him the third man to manage both clubs.Steve McClaren became the fourth man to manage both sides when he took the role of Head Coach at Derby in October 2013. He had previously managed Nottingham Forest for 112 days in 2011.

Players

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Since the Second World War, some 30 different players have represented both Derby and Forest. The majority of these movements came in the 1970s and 1980s, when Clough signed many of his former Derby players for his new club Forest. However, the first notable move was Scottish left wingerStewart Imlach who, after an unsuccessful spell at Derby in the 1954–55 season, signed for Forest for a fee of £5,000 in 1955. He went on to play in the Forest side that beat Luton Town in the 1959 FA Cup Final.

The next direct transfer between the two clubs wasRoy Patrick[23] in 1959, followed byAlan Hinton. Hinton spent four years at Forest between 1963 and 1967 before Clough signed him for £30,000. Forest had seen Hinton as a fairly uninspiring player and a number of Forest directors were known to have smugly put it about that Derby would, "soon be asking for their money back". They were proved wrong when Hinton played 253 times for the Rams over the next 8 years, scoring 63 goals and winning two League Titles. Other Forest to Derby transfers in the late 60s/early 70s sawTerry Hennessey join Derby directly from Forest andHenry Newton andFrank Wignall make the move after spells with Everton and Wolves respectively in between. All of these players made telling contributions to Derby's regular triumphs from 1969 to 1975.

Following Clough's move to Forest in 1975, he signed many of his former Derby players for the Reds. BothJohn O'Hare andJohn McGovern initially followed Clough to Leeds in 1974 before joining him at Forest, twice lifting the European Cup.Archie Gemmill joined Forest directly from Derby in 1977 andColin Todd joined Forest in 1982, four years after leaving the Rams. What is notable about the Gemmill transfer is he rejoined Derby in 1982 (three years after ending his term with Forest) becoming the only player to re-sign for one side of the divide after playing for the other, on a full term basis at least.Charlie George, a Mackay signing who played for Derby between 1975 and 1978, joined Forest on loan from Southampton in 1980, before re-signing for Derby for 11 games in 1982.

Going in the other direction, three of Forest's European Cup winners joined Derby. The most famous isPeter Shilton who left Forest for Southampton in 1982 and joined Derby for a five-year spell between 1987 and 1992. The most infamous wasJohn Robertson. Robertson was signed by Peter Taylor in 1983 in a highly contested transfer, which eventually went to tribunal. Clough felt that his old mate had pulled off an underhand deal, and the two former partners fell out, never to reconcile their differences before Taylor's death in Majorca in October 1990. The other former European Cup winning Red to join Derby wasKenny Burns, who spent a year at Derby between 1984 and 1985. All three of these players signed for Derby at a time when Forest's great successes were still fresh and the Rams were in the wilderness.

Since then, there have been few high-profile players who have played for both clubs. Those who have include goalkeepersJohn Middleton,Steve Sutton andLee Camp, defendersGary Charles,Gary Mills andDarren Wassall, midfieldersSteve Hodge,Glyn Hodges,Darryl Powell andLars Bohinen and forwardsMikkel Beck,Dexter Blackstock andDean Saunders. On 30 May 2008Rob Earnshaw became the first player to move directly between the two clubs for 15 years (since Gary Charles in 1993) when he agreed to a £2.65m deal to join Forest from the Rams less than a year after moving to Pride Park. The move was followed three days later by Forest wingerKris Commons moving to Pride Park, though he was released by Forest first meaning he did not move directly between the two clubs. After rejecting a contract extension from Nottingham Forest in May 2011, striker Nathan Tyson joined Derby County in June 2011. In July 2015, former Derby forwardJamie Ward joined Forest on a free transfer having been released during the summer by Derby.

Players to have played for both

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Managers who have played for and/or managed both

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Records

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The following records are based solely on meetings between Derby County and Nottingham Forest in major competitions:

  • The record home victory in a league match is 5–0, recorded by Derby County at theBaseball Ground on 11 April 1898 and at Pride Park on 22 March 2014.
  • The record away victory in a league match is 6–2, recorded by Nottingham Forest at the Baseball Ground on 14 November 1903.
  • The highest-scoring match saw eight goals when Forest won 6–2 at the Baseball Ground on 14 November 1903.
  • Steve Bloomer of Derby County holds the record for the most East Midlands Derby goals, scoring 26 goals between 1892 and 1912.
  • The most consecutive victories is five: Nottingham Forest won five successive matches from 7 November 1953 to 29 November 1969.
  • The record attendance is 62,017 atCrystal Palace for the1897–98 FA Cup Final on 16 April 1898, a match which Forest won 3–1.
  • The record Football League attendance is 42,074 at Nottingham's City Ground on 14 March 1970, a match which Derby won 3–1.
  • The lowest attendance is an estimated 3,000 at the Baseball Ground on 20 April 1899, a match which Derby won 2–0.
  • The most consecutive games without scoring is five: Derby County failed to score in five successive matches from 11 March 2018 to 9 November 2019.

League doubles

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There have been 16 seasons in which both league matches between Nottingham Forest and Derby County have been won by the same team, with Forest completing nine doubles, to Derby's seven.

SeasonDivisionDouble
Winner
Result at
Derby
Result at
Forest
1892–93Division One (Old)Nottingham Forest2–31–0
1893–94Division One (Old)Nottingham Forest3–44–2
1895–96Division One (Old)Derby County4–02–5
1897–98Division One (Old)Derby County5–03–4
1903–04Division One (Old)Nottingham Forest2–65–1
1904–05Division One (Old)Derby County3–20–1
1911–12Division Two (Old)Derby County1–01–3
1921–22Division Two (Old)Nottingham Forest1–23–0
1925–26Division Two (Old)Derby County2–01–2
1953–54Division Two (Old)Nottingham Forest1–24–2
1954–55Division Two (Old)Nottingham Forest1–23–0
1971–72Division One (Old)Derby County4–00–2
1987–88Division One (Old)Nottingham Forest0–12–1
1989–90Division One (Old)Nottingham Forest0–22–1
2010–11Football League ChampionshipNottingham Forest0–15–2
2011–12Football League ChampionshipDerby County1–01–2
Derby CountyNottingham ForestDerby
Goals
Forest
Goals
794963

Brian Clough Trophy

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Main article:Brian Clough Trophy

In 2007, it was decided that whenever the two teams played in the league or in a cup tie theBrian Clough Trophy, in memory of the man who had great success at both clubs, would be awarded to the winner. The inaugural match was held at Pride Park on 31 July 2007 which Derby won 2–0. Forest's first trophy victory came after a 3–2 victory at the City Ground in August 2009. Nottingham Forest are the current holders following a 1–0 Football League Championship victory at the City Ground in November 2019.

Hooliganism

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On 23 January 2009, the day of aFootball League Championship (second tier) match at Pride Park Stadium, watched by more than 32,000 fans,[24] fans of two teams clashed at the Florence Nightingale public house in Derby, with Forest fans throwing two sheep's heads at Derbyshire pubs.[25] On 29 March 2010, six Forest fans and six Derby fans were found guilty atDerby Crown Court of offences linked to the incident. The ring leader of the fracas was 49-year-oldAlvaston man Ian Innes, a Derby fan who led the attack on Forest fans in the pub; he received a 20-month prison sentence and a 10-year ban from all football matches in England and Wales.[26] His 25-year-old son Stephen was also convicted of taking part in the attack and received a one-year prison sentence along with a six-year nationwide banning order. The trial judge condemned Ian Innes as a "thorough and utter disgrace".[27] In a fixture between the two teams in September 2012, 13 people were arrested, though the match itself passed without any serious incident.[28]

References

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