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_02.JPG)  Botafogo's andFluminense's supporters | |
| Location | Rio de Janeiro,State of Rio de Janeiro,Brazil |
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| Teams | Botafogo Fluminense |
| First meeting | Fluminense 6–0 Botafogo Friendly October 22, 1905 |
| Latest meeting | Fluminense 2–0 Botafogo Campeonato Brasileiro September 28, 2025 |
| Stadiums | Maracanã (Fluminense) Nilton Santos (Botafogo) |
| Statistics | |
| Meetings total | 395 |
| Top scorer | Heleno de Freitas (16) Waldo (16) |
| All-time series | Botafogo: 133 Fluminense: 144 Draw: 118 |
| Largest victory | Fluminense 8–0 Botafogo 1906 Campeonato Carioca May 16, 1906 |
        Botafogo |    Fluminense |
TheClássico Vovô (English:Grandpa Derby orGrandfather Derby) is the name given toBotafogo andFluminense association footballderby, both teams from the city ofRio de Janeiro,Brazil. It is the oldest rivalry among the major clubs in Brazil, and the third oldest in theAmericas.[1][2]
Botafogo and Fluminense are two of the four big clubs in Rio de Janeiro, alongsideFlamengo andVasco da Gama.[3]
Matches usually take place at theMaracanã, with 78 thousand seats, and at theNilton Santos Stadium, with 45 thousand seats, located in theEngenho de Dentro neighborhood.[4]
The most contested tournament by teams is theCarioca Championship, with Botafogo winning the competition 21 times, and Fluminense 33. In theBrazilian Championship, Botafogo won three titles and Fluminense has won four, in addition to oneBrazil Cup title.
At international level, Botafogo has won aCONMEBOL Cup and aCopa Libertadores, and Fluminense has won aCopa Libertadores and aCopa Rio, which it claims to be equivalent to aClub World Cup. Fluminense is the only football team in the world to hold theIOC Olympic Cup ("Coupe Olympique"), a non-competitive award for distinguished service in defending the ideals of the Olympic Movement and for considering the particular merits of institutions or associations and their services provided to sport, achieved in 1949.
Oscar Cox, founder ofFluminense Football Club, was one of those largely responsible for bringing football toRio de Janeiro, and in 1902 he created the city's first football club, in theLaranjeiras neighborhood. Two years later, students from the Alfredo Gomes school, inBotafogo, decided to create a football team in their own neighborhood, starting theBotafogo Football Club, which years later would join the neighborhood's rowing club, and form theBotafogo de Futebol e Regatas.
The name comes from being the two oldest practicing football clubs among the great clubs of Rio de Janeiro, and this is also the oldest derby in Brazil, as its first game was on October 22, 1905, a friendly that Fluminense won 6–0.
In 1906, thefirst Carioca Football Championship was formed, six clubs came together and created the LMF (Liga Metropolitana de Football, or Metropolitan Football League), including Botafogo and Fluminense. Fluminense team was made up of Brazilian and English players, and won this first championship, applying the biggest score of the fixture: 8–0 over Botafogo, made up of young students.
The1907 Carioca Championship had several problems in its execution, starting with the withdrawal ofBangu andRio Cricket from the competition. Botafogo and Fluminense finished tied in championship points, but Fluminense's goal average was higher, at the time it was decided by the Metropolitan League that Fluminense would win the title. Botafogo never recognized their rival's achievement, claiming that the tiebreaker criteria at the time were not clear, and a tiebreaker game should have been held. The legal dispute for the title lasted until 1996, whenFFERJ declared both 1907 champions.
The only time this derby took place in a knock-out stage of any national or international level competition was in the second stage of the2006 Copa Sudamericana. Fluminense won 4–2 on penalties after two 1–1 draws.
The Grandpa Derby directly decided the Campeonato Carioca nine times, withFlu becoming champion in 1908, 1909, 1946, 1959, 1971, 1975 and 2012, andFogão in 1910 and 1957.[5]
| Club | P | W | D | Goals |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Botafogo | 395 | 133 | 118 | 533 |
| Fluminense | 533 | 579 |
As of September 28, 2025.
| Level | Competitions | Botafogo | Fluminense |
|---|---|---|---|
International | Rio International Cup | - | 1 |
| Copa Libertadores | 1 | 1 | |
| Recopa Sudamericana | - | 1 | |
| CONMEBOL Cup | 1 | - | |
National | Brazilian Championship | 3 | 4 |
| Brazil Cup | - | 1 | |
Inter-state | Rio – São Paulo Tournament(1) | 4 | 2 |
| Primeira Liga (Brazil) | - | 1 | |
State | Carioca Championship | 21 | 33 |
Total general | 30 | 44 | |
(1) In 1940 the competition was interrupted with Flamengo and Fluminense in the lead, without the CBD making the title official, however, the clubs and newspapers at the time considered the result definitive and declared the Flamengo and Fluminense as the legitimate champions of the competition.[6][7] The club currently considers itself champion of the competition and includes this title among its achievements.[8]
