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Bobby Veach

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American baseball player (1888–1945)

Baseball player
Bobby Veach
Veach in 1925
Left fielder
Born:(1888-06-29)June 29, 1888
St. Charles, Kentucky, U.S.
Died: August 7, 1945(1945-08-07) (aged 57)
Detroit, Michigan, U.S.
Batted: Left
Threw: Right
MLB debut
August 6, 1912, for the Detroit Tigers
Last MLB appearance
October 2, 1925, for the Washington Senators
MLB statistics
Batting average.310
Hits2,063
Home runs64
Runs batted in1,166
Stats atBaseball Reference Edit this at Wikidata
Teams
Career highlights and awards

Robert Hayes Veach (June 29, 1888 – August 7, 1945) was an American professionalbaseball player from 1910 to 1930 including 14 seasons in the major leagues. He was the startingleft fielder for theDetroit Tigers from 1912 to 1923 and also played for theBoston Red Sox (1924–1925),New York Yankees (1925), andWashington Senators (1925).

Veach hit for both power and average. He compiled a .310 careerbatting average and finished second toTy Cobb for the 1919American League batting title with a .355 average. He also led the American League inruns batted in (RBIs) three times (1915, 1917, and 1918) and was among the league leaders 10 times. Nobody in baseball had as many RBIs orextra base hits as Veach from 1915 to 1922. He is also the only player born in the state ofKentucky to have collected 2,000 hits and 1,000 RBIs.[1] In the timespan of his career, Veach was 9th in hits for all players who played in that time and when he retired, he was one of just 48 players with 2,000 hits in MLB history.[2][3]

Veach was among the best defensive outfielders of his era, regularly ranking among the league leaders inputouts,range factor, andfielding percentage. He is the all-time American League leader indouble plays by a left fielder with 42.[4] Despite being one of the most productive hitters in baseball during his years in Detroit, Veach played in the shadows of three Detroit outfielders who won 16 batting titles and were inducted into theBaseball Hall of Fame: Cobb in center field andSam Crawford followed byHarry Heilmann in right field. Detroit's 1915 outfield consisting of Veach, Cobb, and Crawford was ranked by baseball historianBill James as the greatest outfield in history.

Early years

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Veach was born inIsland, Kentucky, in 1888. His family moved toMadisonville, Kentucky, when he was 12 years old. His father was a coal miner, and Veach also began working in the coal mine as a boy. In 1915, Veach recalled: "I started in as a miner when I was fourteen years old and worked at it in the winters until a couple years ago, long after I was earning money as a player."[5] At age 17, Veach moved toHerrin, Illinois, where he began playing semi-pro baseball.[5]

Minor league career

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Veach began his professional baseball career in 1910 as a pitcher with thePeoria Distillers of theIllinois–Indiana–Iowa League. At the start of the season, he was sent to theKankakee Kays of theNorthern Association.[5] He compiled a 10–5 record at Kankakee and was recalled to Peoria.[5] In 1911, Veach was converted from a pitcher into an outfielder.[5] He appeared in 132 games for Peoria, compiling a .297batting average with 40extra base hits.[6] Veach began the 1912 season with Peoria, batting .325 with 24 extra base hits in the first 56 games of the season.[6] In July 1912, he was promoted to theIndianapolis Indians of theAmerican Association. He remained in Indianapolis for only two months and two days before being purchased by theDetroit Tigers.[5]

Major league career

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1912–1914

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In early September, Veach was purchased by Detroit from Indianapolis.[5] He was promptly inserted into the Tigers' lineup, replacingDavy Jones as theleft fielder in an outfield that included futureBaseball Hall of FamersTy Cobb andSam Crawford. Veach made his major league debut on September 6, 1912, at age 24. He appeared in 23 games for Detroit in 1912, compiling a .342 batting average in 79 at bats.[7] Veach remained the Tigers' starting left fielder for 12 years.[7]

In 1913, as Veach adjusted to playing in the major leagues, his batting average declined to .269, but he continued to show power and speed with 22 doubles, 10 triples, and 22 stolen bases. He also showed patience at the plate, drawing 53 bases on balls to boost hison-base percentage to .346.[6]

Veach improved steadily in 1914, raising his batting average to .275.[7] He also had 14 triples, which was the fifth best total in theAmerican League that season, trailing teammate Sam Crawford's total of 26 triples, which remains the American League record. His 74 RBIs in 1914 also ranked ninth in the league.[8] Veach also continued to show patience at the plate, drawing 50 bases on balls and ranking fifth in the league with an at bat to strikeout ratio of 18.1.[8] He also showed great range in the outfield, ranking fourth among the league's outfielders with 282 putouts.[7]

1915

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Crawford, Veach, and Cobb in 1915

In 1915, Veach had a breakout season, becoming one of the most dominant batters in the American League. His batting average increased by 38 points to .313, and he led the American League with 40 doubles (nine more than any other player) and 112 RBIs (tied with teammate Sam Crawford). He was also among the league leaders with 53 extra base hits (2nd), 178 hits (3rd), 247 total bases (3rd), .313 batting average (6th), .390 on-base percentage (6th), .434 slugging percentage (7th), and 68 bases on balls (10th).[9]

Veach also performed well defensively. His 297 putouts ranked fifth among the league's outfielders, and his .975 fielding percentage also ranked fifth.[7]

The Tigers' 1915 outfield, with Veach in left, Cobb in center, and Crawford in right, was ranked by baseball historianBill James as the greatest outfield of all time.[10] During the 1915 season,Baseball Magazine published a five-page feature story on Veach, concluding that "with his advent the Detroit outfield is one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, ever assembled on a diamond."[5] Though the league average batting average in 1915 was .248, Cobb hit .369 with 99 RBIs, Crawford hit .299 and drove in 112 runs, and Veach hit .313 with 112 RBIs. The three Detroit outfielders ranked #1, #2, and #3 in total bases and RBIs.[9] The 1915 Tigers won 100 games but finished in second place, one game behind theBoston Red Sox.[11]

1916–1923

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Veach continued his solid hitting from 1915 to 1923, batting over .306 in eight of those nine years. Veach finished among theAmerican League leaders in hits (8 times),batting average (6 times), doubles (8 times), triples (8 times),RBIs (10 times), extra base hits (7 times), andtotal bases (8 times).

On June 9, 1916, Veach scored a run to endBabe Ruth's scoreless innings streak at 25. Ruth then evened the score with one of the longest home runs ever atNavin Field, deep into the right field bleachers.

Veach had his best year as a batter in 1919 when he led theAmerican League in hits (191), doubles (41), and triples (17). OnlyBabe Ruth andTy Cobb topped him in other offensive categories. His .355 batting average was second to Cobb, and his 65 extra base hits, 101 RBIs, and 279total bases were second behind Ruth.

On September 17, 1920, he became the first Detroit Tiger tohit for the cycle with six hits in a 12-inning game.[12]

In 1921, Veach was the subject of a motivational tactic by newplayer-manager Cobb. Cobb believed that Veach, who came to bat with a smile and engaged in friendly conversation withumpires and opposing pitchers, was too easygoing. Tigers historianFred Lieb described Veach as a "happy-go-lucky guy, not too brilliant above the ears", who "was as friendly as a Newfoundland pup with opponents as well as teammates". (Fred Lieb, "The Detroit Tigers") Hoping to light a fire in Veach, Cobb persuadedHarry Heilmann, who followed Veach in thebatting order, to taunt Veach from theon-deck circle. "I want you to make him mad. Real mad. ... [W]hile you're waiting, call him ayellow belly, a quitter and a dog. ... Take that smile off his face." The tactic may have worked, as Veach had career-highs in RBIs (126) andhome runs (16), and hisbatting average jumped from .308 to .338. Cobb had promised to tell Veach about the scheme when the season was over but never did. When Heilmann tried to explain, Veach reportedly snarled, "Don't come sucking around me with that phony line." Veach never forgave Heilmann.[13]

Veach in 1917

In the eight years from 1915 to 1922, Veach had 852 RBIs and 450extra base hits, more than any other player.[14] The top five in RBI during these eight years:

  1. Bobby Veach – 859
  2. Ty Cobb – 665
  3. Del Pratt – 641
  4. Rogers Hornsby – 638
  5. Babe Ruth – 623

The top five in extra base hits:[15]

  1. Veach – 450
  2. Ruth – 445
  3. Speaker – 444
  4. Cobb – 418
  5. Hornsby – 414

Veach as a left fielder

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In addition to his batting skills, Veach's speed and strong arm made him a fineleft fielder. He led the American League in games played in left field seven times (1914–1915, 1917–1918, and 1920–1922). He led the American League inputouts by an outfielder in 1921 with 384. He also led the league inassists with 26 in 1920.

Veach's 206 career assists and 2.28range factor are among the top 10 in Major League history for left fielders. Though left fielders generally receive fewer fieldingchances than other outfielders, Veach regularly covered more ground and accepted more chances than the league average for all outfielders. His 1921 range factor of 2.72 is one of the highest season totals for a left fielder in Major League history. His 384 putouts in 1921 and 26 assists in 1920 are also among the highest by a left fielder since 1900.

Veach's range as an outfielder is also shown by a comparison withTy Cobb, the center fielder he played beside for most of his career. In 1914, Veach had 282 putouts and 22 assists, compared to 177 and 8 for Cobb.[16] Though center fielders typically receive more chances, and Cobb had a reputation as a fine center fielder, Veach bested Cobb in chances in seven of the nine years they played side by side in the Detroit outfield: 1914 (304–185), 1916 (356–343), 1918 (291–237), 1919 (352–291), 1920 (383–254), 1921 (405–328), and 1922 (391–344).

Boston and New York

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In 1923, Veach continued to hit for average at .321, but hisRBI production dropped to 39. Likely his most noteworthy contribution was in spotting the talent ofCharlie Gehringer in a sandlot game that saw him arrange a tryout with Detroit; Gehringer subsequently had a Hall of Fame career with the Tigers.[17]

In January 1924, the Tigers sold Veach to theBoston Red Sox. That year, Veach regained his power, with 49extra base hits and 99 RBIs.

In May 1925, the Red Sox traded Veach to theNew York Yankees. He played 56 games for the Yankees, batting .353 with a .474 slugging percentage. On August 9, 1925, in his final season, Veach became one of two players to pinch hit forBabe Ruth in the years after Babe switched from a pitcher to an outfielder. TheChicago Tribune reported the next day: "The fans were treated to the unusual spectacle of His Royal Highness being yanked for apinch hitter."[18]

Washington

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The Yankees released Veach less than two weeks later, and he was picked up by theWashington Senators. This proved to be good luck for Veach, as the Senators won the 1925 pennant. On September 19, 1925, Veach broke upTed Lyons's bid for ano-hitter with a two-out ninth-inning single. The youngGoose Goslin got the start for the Senators at left field, but Veach got one at bat in the World Series pinch-hitting forMuddy Ruel in Game 2. Fittingly, Veach collected anRBI on asacrifice fly in his final Major League at bat.[19]

Last baseball days

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After ending his Major League career in 1925, Veach played four seasons with theToledo Mud Hens of theAmerican Association from 1926 to 1929. In 1927, a 39-year-old Veach led the Mud Hens (with managerCasey Stengel) to their first American Association crown with a 101–67 record. Veach had a .363 batting average and drove in a league-leading 145RBIs. The next year, at age 40, Veach hit .382 to capture the 1928 American Association batting crown.[20]

Career statistics

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GABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGTBSHHBPFLD%
18216656953 (a)2063393147641166 (b)19584571367.310.370.442294227159.964
  • Note: (a)Baseball Reference andRetrosheet list his runs at 957.Baseball Almanac, The Baseball Cube, andFangraphs list his runs at 953.MLB.com lists his runs at 952.
  • (b) Baseball Reference and Retrosheet list his RBI total at 1174. Baseball Almanac, The Baseball Cube, Fangraphs, and MLB.com list his RBI total at 1166.


Later years

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In December 1943, Veach underwent an abdominal operation at Grace Hospital in Detroit. Veach died in 1945 at his home inDetroit after a long illness at the age of 57. He was survived by his wife and three sons. Veach was buried at White Chapel Memorial Park Cemetery inTroy, Michigan.

See also

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References

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  1. ^"The Curious Case of Bobby Veach". August 4, 2009.
  2. ^"For combined seasons, from 1912 to 1925, in the regular season, sorted by descending Hits".Stathead. RetrievedJuly 21, 2025.
  3. ^"For combined seasons, up to 1925, in the regular season, sorted by descending Hits".Stathead. RetrievedJuly 21, 2025.
  4. ^"Career Leaders & Records for Double Plays Turned as LF (s.1901)".Baseball-Reference. Sports Reference. RetrievedMay 21, 2024.
  5. ^abcdefghJohn Ward (1915)."Robert Veach and the $100,000 Outfield: The Sensational Rise of a Young Coal Miner and How He Became a Member of the Greatest Outfield of History"(PDF). The Baseball Magazine.
  6. ^abc"Bobby Veach Minor League Statistics". baseball-reference.com.
  7. ^abcde"Bobby Veach". baseball-reference.com.
  8. ^ab"1914 American League Batting Leaders". baseball-reference.com.
  9. ^ab"1915 American League Batting Leaders". baseball-reference.com.
  10. ^Bill James (2001).The New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract. Free Press. pp. 673–674.ISBN 9780684806976.
  11. ^"1915 Detroit Tigers". baseball-reference.com.
  12. ^"Players who have hit for the cycle".MLB.com.
  13. ^Al Stump (1994).Cobb: The Life and Times of the Meanest Man Who Ever Played Baseball. pp. 327–328.
  14. ^"For combined seasons, from 1915 to 1922, in the regular season, sorted by descending Runs Batted In".Stathead. RetrievedJuly 21, 2025.
  15. ^"For combined seasons, from 1915 to 1922, in the regular season, sorted by descending Extra Base Hits".Stathead. RetrievedJuly 21, 2025.
  16. ^1914 Detroit Tigers Statistics and Roster – Baseball-Reference.com at www.baseball-reference.com
  17. ^"Bobby Veach – Society for American Baseball Research".
  18. ^Condon, David (December 29, 1961)."In the Wake of the News..."The Chicago Tribune. RetrievedOctober 22, 2014.
  19. ^"Pittsburgh Pirates 3, Washington Senators 2".Retrosheet. October 8, 1925.
  20. ^American Association AlmanacArchived 2007-09-28 at theWayback Machine at www.americanassociationalmanac.com

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