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A new template version has been installed - mostly to improve accessibility by increasing the font-size of text [andbetter colors(a/o 20240310)] - hope this new template is *entirely* ok - please comment if otherwise of course - related timelines include:{{Life timeline}} and{{Nature timeline}} - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk) 01:13, 5 June 2021 (UTC) [edit added -Drbogdan (talk)21:31, 10 March 2024 (UTC)][reply]
In the "Hominum Timeline" image, the link "Earliest clothes" (upper right corner) does not cover the full text, making it difficult to click. To reproduce, try clicking on any of the other two links ("Modern Humans", or "Earliest Rock Art"), then try clicking on the "Earliest Clothes" link and see how difficult that is compared to the first two. (Not a web designer, so can't advise on what magic HTML tag to change here.)— Precedingunsigned comment added by216.212.53.47 (talk)03:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Passing through and was interested in the figure in this template. I thought it was [a] great display of information, very well-done. The one thing that I couldn't find was a legend explaining the differences in the shades of orange around the names of the species. It seems to be a detail that was overlooked when the figure was being designed. Can someone who worked on this figure add something that explains why the orange shading gets lighter toward the top?CoffeeHawk (talk)01:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@CoffeeHawk: - Thank you for your comments about the template - there is no particular meaning intended for the template orange coloring/gradations - added mostly to help distinguish the various hominin groupings presented - and for being a bit artistic ("artistic license"?) - hope this helps in some way - in any case - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk)01:24, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done@CoffeeHawk: (and others) - Decided to adjust some colors - to help avoid any possible misunderstandings - seems better after all - more distinct (and clearer) between groups imo - hope this helps in some way - Comments Welcome - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk)20:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see an explanation of the 2 'columns' at the left, where the background colour changes are at different times from those where the "H. erectus" etc. text appears. I've tried to make sense of it with "in Africa", or "in Asia", but nothing really seems to work. Can brief text be added to explain them?Peace Makes Plenty (talk)14:22, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Peace Makes Pretty: (and others) - Thank You for your comments - and suggestions - not clear re your concern - possibly, the 1st left column may indicate thatAustralopithecus survived until about 1.20 mya; whereas the 2nd left column may indicate thatH. habilis survived until about 1.65 mya - nonetheless - should note that space and related are very limiting with such templates - adding more template text may compromise the template - also - items are hyperlinked to associated WikiArticles for more details - perhaps more clarification may be helpful - Comments Welcome from other Editors also of course - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk)15:25, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Belbury: (and others) - Thank You for your comments - and suggestion - they're appreciated - seems aWP:CONSENSUS may be helpful in considering this - Comments Welcome from other editors - in any case - Thanks again for your comments and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk)16:39, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments - yes - intentional - but otoh - maybe better with a distinct color after all (see image above) - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk)17:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done@Belbury: (and others) - template has now been updated with better accessibility colors - and installed in main wiki space - should now be ok - please comment if otherwise of course - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk) 21:36, 10 March 2024 (UTC)Some of the text was too small to meet accessibility guidelines atMOS:SMALLFONT, i.e. below 85% of the default page font size. I have fixed all of the instances that I was able to find. –Jonesey95 (talk)20:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hike395 andPrimeHunter: - PROBLEM: Seems the vertical text on the left side of the template is no longer spread apart as earlier - but seemingly sqeezed together for some reason instead - is there some fix for this? - (currently using DellXps8930/Win10tel/Chrome) (add => same problem on FireFox and Opera as well)- Thanks in advance for your reply -Drbogdan (talk)20:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is caused by{{Vertical text}} being inside the link, not outside of it. A known bug for years:phab:T200704. I fixed the template (basically, by doing[[Link|{{Vertical text|Text}}]] →{{Vertical text|[[Link|Text]]}}.stjn22:37, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done@PrimeHunter andStjn: - Yes - Problem seems to be *completely* solved - Thank You *very, very* much for your help with this - it's *greatly* appreciated - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk)00:37, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PrimeHunter andStjn: Brief Followup - although the "vertical text" issue seems to be fixed on the main page of{{Human timeline}}, the issue seems to persist on this talk-page (see instance of{{Human timeline}} - in the coding context of a "table" - above on this talk-page) - even after this talk-page - and the main page - had been "purged" of any browser cache remains - this may (or may not) be important - and may not require any attention - but perhaps worth mentioning - Thanks again for your recent help with this -Drbogdan (talk)10:18, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both "Asia" fail to become vertical, also the second which is supposed to work. If the order of the two lines is swapped thenboth become vertical. It can be tested in preview by swapping the order without keeping a copy with the original order. I wasn't able to demonstrate the broken and working order at the same time because they interfere with eachother.PrimeHunter (talk)10:54, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To both: would be good if I didn’t get so many pings from this discussion. I am following it. To your question: I did link tothe Phabricator task that describes this bug, yes, this is how it ends up bugging out, I don't know what I am supposed to say. I am not responsible for writing TemplateStyles extension.stjn12:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PK2: You have recently made many template edits like[7] with edit summary "remove all instances of 'Template:nowrap' to prevent that template from being transcluded onto other pages". Why? In this case it made the text unreadable.PrimeHunter (talk)11:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "Earliest clothes" link can only be clicked from a single pixel. "Earliest rock art" can only be clicked starting halfway down the text. This happens on both Chrome and Firefox desktop. It seems like each link is in its own table element and they're overlapping, so trying to click on the "Earliest clothes" link is targeting the table containing "Modern humans"?
Technically settingpointer-events:none on the table that holds the link and thenpointer-events:all on the div inside would fix it, there might be a better solution.Seraqai (talk)07:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think "Earliest Language" should be put so early, at least pastHomo erectus, since there is no significant evidence that this is the case, and because many scholars disagree on this dating. The fact thatNeanderthals are as much equally debated, if not more so, gives credence to this.JungleEntity (talk)00:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The dating on the table of "earliest language" is highly debated. I am not sure what the source is for the date shown of ~2mya, but I know there are plenty of researchers who suspect a later date, and that it's highly inferential with little to no direct evidence. So I think that entry on the timeline should be omitted.2603:80A0:CF0:82E0:3580:75EB:7FD6:1FEA (talk)19:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, here is a source for a later date -- the cognitive scientist Robert Berwick speculatively dates it to 200,000 years ago in a presentation on the subject, associating it with anatomically modern humans.
Done@CoffeeHawk: (and others) - Decided to adjust some colors - to help avoid any possible misunderstandings - seems better after all - more distinct (and clearer) between groups imo - hope this helps in some way - Comments Welcome - iac - Stay Safe and Healthy !! -Drbogdan (talk)20:12, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]%2c_early_1900s%2c_Central_Africa%2c_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo%2c_Pende_people%2c_wood%2c_fiber_-_Cleveland_Museum_of_Art_-_DSC08700.JPG)
Already doneSzmenderowiecki (talk)15:48, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]