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On 21 November 2025, it was proposed that this article bemoved fromParangimalai toSt. Thomas Mount. The result ofthe discussion wasmoved.

merge

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please merge it

Thanks

~Jay--68.107.68.44 (talk)02:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merger withSanthome

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IMHO, I do not think that the merger with Santhome needs to be carried out. This is because both Santhome and St. Thomas Mount areseparate places in Chennai - hence they need not be merged. Let two articles exist. But because they seem to have a shared history, may be we can add a 'See also' reference to each other.The Silent Contributor09:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merger withSaint Thomas Mount

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I shall carry out the merger ofSaint Thomas Mount with this article on the 2nd of September, if nobody has any objections. If you do have any objections, post them here or onmy talk page.The Silent Contributor 14:13, 24 August 2006 (UTC) Done!!The Silent Contributor08:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do not merge

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I'm from Chennai (Madras) and these two are very distinct places there. They are around 10kms apart with different other neighbourhoods in-between. In Chennai, there is no confusion between these two areas. I do agree, that "See also" may be appropriate because of the name relationship.07:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the merge notice now.-- thunderboltz(Deepu)07:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Stamp st.thomas.jpg

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BetacommandBot19:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What's a flying range?

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"Located a little off Guindy and close to the flying range"  ?? --AW (talk)20:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone? --AW (talk)19:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not far away from the airport tarmac.Sudar (talk)11:07, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reference to Thomas the Apostle

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The article says that Thomas the Apostle is "mistakenly understood to be attained martyrdom here in Chennai", but doesn't provide references for either the "understanding" or the evidence that it's a mistake.— Precedingunsigned comment added byFrancispotter (talkcontribs)05:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

@Francispotter There is in the first instance no credible evidence provided for the alleged fact that St Thomas the Apostle attained martyrdom here in Chennai. Even the Catholic Church in Vatican doesn't recognise that.2A01:4B00:942F:9600:74EA:8EEF:F434:662B (talk)21:55, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology of parangimalai

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Parangi in tamil refers to Portugese missionaries. From the records of a church in Trichy which had been administered for 400 years by Portugese missionaries, I have noted the word for Portugese missionaires used is Parangi saamiyargal . The word might be from Hindi Firangi meaning foreign. ST. Thomas mount also has a 500 year old church built by Portugesese and has many convents, so the name might refer to Portugese and not Sage Birungi.— Precedingunsigned comment added byAquinas87 (talkcontribs) 10:18, 5 October 2012‎

Article title renaming regarding

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Parangimalai (பரங்கிமலை) in Tamil language exists and not in English. Whereas St. Thomas Mount in English is so called as பரங்கிமலை (Parangimalai) in Tamil language.

So, 'St. Thomas Mount' as the article title will be more suitable and hence it is to be considered.

Almightybless (talk)14:14, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Parangimalai is the native name and is also used widely and hence come underWP:COMMONNAME. Even the suburban railway station of the region bears the name officially.Rasnaboy (talk)01:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, very dubious move - St. Thomas Mount remains the common name in English even with a cursory glance (including the local station)AlbusWulfricDumbledore (talk)00:27, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 November 2025

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The following is a closed discussion of arequested move.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider amove reviewafter discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was:moved.(closed by non-admin page mover)Jeffrey34555 (talk)18:30, 28 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]


ParangimalaiSt. Thomas Mount – page moved in 2022 to current name under a supposedWP:COMMONNAME without much further reasoning. In local and media use the commonly used name is consistently "St. Thomas Mount", including every local station which was a point alluded to. Even at cursory glance online and the far fewer references to Parangimalai makes this clear. (St Thomas Mount is used on every English language map too)

  • Times of India travel article March 2024 - titled "Chennai: Exploring the heritage of St. Thomas Mount"
  • Lonely Planet - area named as St Thomas Mount
  • New Indian Express - re: metro extensions to area - "MRTS extension to St Thomas Mount set for year-end..."
  • Times Property - "The project gains greater significance as St Thomas Mount is also set..."
  • The Hindu - "The St. Thomas Mount National Shrine at St Thomas Mount..."
  • The local cantonment board is formally called "St. Thomas Mount-cum-Pallavaram Cantonment Board"
  • To the point previously alluded to about stations - Southern Railway and Chennai’s suburban rail network refer to the station and area as St. Thomas Mount. In railway documents and press releases, the station is called "St. Thomas Mount" (with station code STM).

When Parangimalai *does* appear occasionally in English, it is typically in parentheses or as a translation

  • "We were first led to St Thomas Mount (Parangimalai)" -New Indian Express
  • Even the current article claims multiple times, St. Thomas Mount is the name in English (with citations)

Usage on Google Trends is consistently at least10:1 higher over the last 5 years for St Thomas Mount

I have not moved the page unilaterally, given prior edit summaries and the article's move history.AlbusWulfricDumbledore (talk)09:27, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom and a search, St Thomas Mount does seem to be the more common name in English. A redir for Parangimalai would be good.
TNNO (talk)11:02, 21 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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