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Lead climbing is currently a Recreationgood article nominee.Nominated byAszx5000 (talk) at 12:22, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

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Short description: Technique of rock climbing

Good articlesLead climbing was nominated as aSports and recreation good article, but it did not meet thegood article criteria at the time (November 5, 2024,reviewed version). There are suggestions onthe review page for improving the article. If you can improve it,please do; it may then berenominated.
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Nominator:Aszx5000 (talk ·contribs)20:43, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer:IntentionallyDense (talk·contribs)03:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


I will review this soon.IntentionallyDense (talk)03:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RateAttributeReview Comment
1.Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, andunderstandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.see comments below.IntentionallyDense (talk)22:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1b. it complies with theManual of Style guidelines forlead sections,layout,words to watch,fiction, andlist incorporation.IntentionallyDense (talk)22:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2.Verifiable withno original research, as shown by asource spot-check:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance withthe layout style guideline.IntentionallyDense (talk)03:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2b.reliable sources arecited inline. All content thatcould reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).IntentionallyDense (talk)03:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2c. it containsno original research.IntentionallyDense (talk)03:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2d. it contains nocopyright violations orplagiarism.IntentionallyDense (talk)03:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3.Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses themain aspects of the topic.See comment below.IntentionallyDense (talk)22:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (seesummary style).IntentionallyDense (talk)22:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
4.Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.IntentionallyDense (talk)22:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5.Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoingedit war or content dispute.IntentionallyDense (talk)03:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6.Illustrated, if possible, bymedia such asimages,video, oraudio:
6a. media aretagged with theircopyright statuses, andvalid non-free use rationales are provided fornon-free content.IntentionallyDense (talk)03:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6b. media arerelevant to the topic, and havesuitable captions.IntentionallyDense (talk)03:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
7.Overall assessment.I'm going to place this on hold while the nominator fixes the one thing I commented on and so that I can get a second opinion.IntentionallyDense (talk)22:10, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since the reviewer asked for a second opinion: I agree that the article is a bit too technical, especially the lead. SeeWikipedia:Make technical articles understandable. Especially in the lead, we should avoid or explain technical terms as best as possible to make the text accessible. Some terms could be replaced by more common words or short descriptions (which can still be linked to the technical article), or can be avoided by simplification (e.g., maybe you don't need the term "pitch" in the first sentence of the lead at all). The first sentence is especially difficult, since it already seems to assume that the reader knows that two climbers connected by a rope are involved; I guess it should be simplified to its essence. --Jens Lallensack (talk)23:04, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you this sums up what my worries were. I appreciate the input!IntentionallyDense (talk)00:27, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks @IntentionallyDense and @Jens Lallensack and I understand the concern. Let me think about how to fix this for you and I will ping you both back when I have redone. thanks again for your input and patience!Aszx5000 (talk)17:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed.Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

@IntentionallyDense:: Hi there, and sorry about not being around to complete this GA review, which you so helpfully engaged in. I am back on WP and have time to complete this if you were interested in re-engaging. I have made material changes to the article and particularly the lede and first section to simplify and clarify the descriptions, which hopefully will help to address the concerns that you correctly raised. However, completely understand if you cannot re-engage, and I can re-submit to the general GA queue if that is the case. Thanks,Aszx5000 (talk)18:21, 6 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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