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Incorrect IPA trasncription

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The IPA transcription of the german name is incorrect. It is shown as [bɛʁˈliːn] while correctly it would be [bɛɐ̯ˈliːn].UndeadLime (talk)10:26, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it.UndeadLime (talk)13:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately this is a transcription that is still often used, such as by the German Wiktionary, who refer back to DUDEN. It is very silly.Anselm Schüler (talk)18:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
⟨ʁ⟩ is ambiguous as to whether it's fricative or approximant, so⟨ʁ⟩ already encompasses [ɐ̯], much the same way as⟨j⟩ and⟨i̯⟩, and⟨ɹ⟩ and⟨ɚ̯⟩, are synonymous.Nardog (talk)13:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The approimant form of ⟨ʁ⟩ is /ʁ̞/ and even if it was /ʁ̞/ I'm still not sure wether thats correct.UndeadLime (talk)14:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's not hownarrowness works. Read theIPAHandbook. Besides, it makes no sense to change it here but not in the hundreds of other such transcriptions, includingAlbert Einstein,Luxembourg,Angela Merkel,Frankfurt,Hamburg,Habsburg monarchy,Mercedes-Benz,Strasbourg,Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, andNorth Rhine-Westphalia.Nardog (talk)15:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's also used like that because it shows the potential difference between[aʁ] and[aːɐ̯] which some (not all) speakers make. Using ⟨aɐ̯⟩ for the one with the underlying short vowel is just wrong, it's not a diphthong. In Standard German, those are often homophonous as[aː~ɑː] (which may or may not yield a merger with/aː/), yet in Low German-influenced German they're[æː] and[ɑː], two very distinct monophthongs (I think the latter is fully merged with/aː/, which is open back). For others, they're[aʁ] and[aː~ɑː], or fluctuating between that and[aː~ɑː] for both. It's really complicated and not at all straightforward as in Danish or English. If the/r/ is there, it's there as an approximant, or regionally as a fricative which can be devoiced before fortes (as in Luxembourgish).
I agree that the most common pronunciation is[bɛɐ̯ˈliːn], that's the only one I've ever heard in contemporary German (discounting obvious regional accents, you can hear[bɛɾˈliːn] in Switzerland and[bæʁˈliːn] in Luxembourg). I must admit that I can't hear the r-reflex very well sometimes, to me it at least sometimes sounds like[bɛˈliːn] (which is not a transcription I'd use in an encyclopedia, of course).Sol505000 (talk)11:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Number of rainy days

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The number of rainy days in Berlin is not correct. Its 100-110 days.2A02:8109:9F0B:1500:40E8:FDE6:E50C:2A59 (talk)20:19, 2 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What source is this based on? I had a look at the dataset and the number is correct, but it's based on a fairly low threshhold (0.1mm). There are 137 days with > 0.3mm and 64 with > 2.5mm. The German wikipedia gives a lower number, but with no indication of the threshhold used. Best,Cfrhansen (talk)23:04, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok understood. Still rather strange metric. I've never seen anywhere else that the definition for a rainy day is as low as > 0.1 mm.2A02:8109:9F18:3500:6020:4AC6:FB00:509D (talk)06:41, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Enhanced picture

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In good faith,Celco85 exchanged a picture for another one that was "enhanced". However, when I compare the two pictures, I can see that yes, the second ("enhanced") picture is less skewed than the first one, but the quality of the first picture is so much better!Here are both pictures:

The resolution of the original image is higher than that of the edited image. So I will put the original image back in. Friendly,Lova Falk (talk)07:15, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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